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Anxiety and Addiction: Why Your Loved One's Nervous System Is Running on Empty
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Anxiety can be loud, but it can also be invisible. Sometimes it looks like a person who’s “fine,” holds a job, shows up for everyone else, and still feels like something terrible is about to happen every waking hour. That constant bracing is e...
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The Dread That Never Stops
SPEAKER_00 0:00
She described it like this. She said it felt like she was always waiting for something terrible to happen. She didn't know what, she just knew it was coming. And the not knowing was almost worse than if something actually had happened. She wasn't dramatic, she wasn't weak. She was exhausted from spending every waking hour bracing for an impact that never came and never went away. And she'd been drinking a bottle of wine every night for six years to make it stop for just a few hours. Her family called it a drinking problem. And it was, but it was also something else.
Why Anxiety Gets Missed
SPEAKER_00 1:18
My name is Matt Brown. I'm an addiction interventionist with 23 years of personal sobriety for my own addiction. This is episode two of our six-part mental health series, what your loved one's diagnosis actually means, and what most people, including a lot of professionals, get wrong about it. Last week we covered depression. Today we're talking about anxiety disorders, the most common class of mental health diagnoses in the country, and one of the most frequently missed drivers of addiction in the families that I work with.
Because here's the thing about anxiety depression looks like something is wrong. Anxiety can look like everything's fine. The person is functional, holding it together, maybe even overperforming. While inside, the alarm bells are constantly going off. And that combination, high function, and constant internal dread is a setup for self-medication that can go undetected for years. Anxiety disorders are not one simple thing, they're a category. And that matters because different anxiety disorders have different profiles, different triggers, and different treatment approaches.
The three that show up the most often in the families that I work with are as follows.
Three Anxiety Disorders That Matter
SPEAKER_00 2:30
Number one, generalized anxiety disorder. This is the one that most people picture when they hear anxiety. The DSM 5 defines it as excessive anxiety and worry about a number of different events or activities occurring more days than not for at least six months. The word excessive is doing important work in that sentence. Everyone worries. Generalized anxiety disorder is when the worry is disproportionate to the actual situation. It's hard to control, it's persistent across multiple areas of life: work, health, family, finances, the future. Not just one thing, everything.
And to meet the diagnosis, the person has to have at least three of six physical and cognitive symptoms restlessness or feeling on edge, fatigue, difficulty concentrating, or mind going blank, irritability, muscle tension, and sleep problems, trouble falling asleep, staying asleep, or restless, unsatisfying sleep. Here's what that looks like in a person. They catastrophize, they can't let things go. They run worst-case scenarios on autopilot. They seem like they're always preparing for a disaster.
And they're tired, not because they don't sleep, but because their nervous system never fully gets to rest. The second one is panic disorder. This is different. Panic disorder involves recurrent, unexpected panic attacks, sudden surges of intense fear that peak within minutes and include physical symptoms like racing heart, sweating, trembling, shortness of breath, chest pain, dizziness, nausea, chills or heat, numbness, often a feeling of unreality, like they're watching themselves from the outside, a fear that they're dying or going crazy.
A panic attack is one of the most physically convincing experiences a person can have. People end up in the ER convinced that they're having a heart attack. They're not, but their body does not know the difference, nor does their brain. What makes it panic disorder as opposed to a one-time panic attack is the aftermath. The person becomes persistently afraid of having another attack. They start avoiding situations they associate with the attack. They change their behavior around the possibility of panic. That avoidance is where it starts to take over their life.
And the third is social anxiety disorder. This goes well beyond shyness. The DSM 5 defines it as a marked fear or anxiety about social situations in which the person may be scrutinized by others, conversations, meetings, eating in front of people, performing, even just the fear of being observed. The person fears that they'll act in a way that will be humiliating or embarrassing. They fear that others will notice their anxiety symptoms. And the fear is out of proportion to the actual threat or the perceived threat.
Social anxiety is particularly relevant to this series because alcohol and other substances are so normalized in social context that self-medication here can be invisible for a very long time. She just needs a drink to loosen up. No, she's been managing a genuine anxiety disorder with alcohol every time there are other people in the room.
What Families See And Misread
SPEAKER_00 5:59
Across anxiety disorders, here's what families often see. And they also misread. Avoidance, avoiding situations, people, places, or activities that the person associates with the anxiety. This can look like flakiness, introversion, laziness, or being antisocial. It's the anxiety driving behavior, not a character trait. Reassurance seeking, repeatedly asking if everything is okay, needing repeated confirmation before making decisions.
This can be exhausting for families and creates a pattern where the family member becomes the person's primary anxiety management system, which doesn't help either of them. Irritability. This one gets missed constantly. Anxiety activates the nervous system. A nervous system running on high alert for months or years produces a person who is short-fused, reactive, and easily overwhelmed. Families often describe this as anger or attitude. It's frequently chronic anxiety. There's also physical complaints, chronic headaches, stomach problems, muscle aches, fatigue.
The body will absorb what the mind can't process. Many people with untreated anxiety disorder live in bodies that feel like they're constantly bracing for impact. And that hypervigilance and alertness to threat that doesn't turn off, scanning, watching, waiting, a startle response that is out of proportion. This one in particular can look a lot like PTSD, and sometimes it's both. This is probably more intuitive than depression. But let's say it clearly anyway.
The Self-Medication Trap With Substances
SPEAKER_00 7:39
Anxiety is the nervous system signaling danger. The physical symptoms, racing heart, muscle tension, shallow breathing, dread, are identical to what the body produces when there is actual danger. Except there isn't. The alarm system is malfunctioning, it's going off constantly and it won't reset. Alcohol is the single most common anxiety self-medication system on the planet. Here's why. Alcohol enhances GABA, the brain's primary inhibitory neurotransmitter. GABA's job is to slow neural activity, to calm things down. Alcohol forces that calming effect quickly and reliably.
And for someone whose nervous system has been running too hot for too long, a drink or two produces something they haven't felt in months or years. Quiet. That's not a small thing. That's relief from a state of constant suffering. And the brain learns very quickly what provides that relief. The trap is that alcohol also suppresses REM sleep. It disrupts cortisol regulation. It creates rebound anxiety during withdrawal. Meaning the anxiety is worse the morning after drinking than it was the night before, which makes the cycle self-reinforcing.
The drinking that relieved the anxiety yesterday is producing more anxiety today, which needs to be relieved again tonight. Cannabis is complicated here. In small amounts, some people find it reduces anxiety, but high potency THC, especially in people predisposed to anxiety, can dramatically worsen it, producing paranoia and panic. The research suggests that cannabis may actually increase the long-term rate of anxiety disorders.
But because some people experience short-term relief, they use it for anxiety and don't connect it to the fact that their baseline anxiety has actually been getting worse over time. And then there's benzodiazepines, things like Xanax, clonapin, Valium, Atavan. These are prescriptive the prescription equivalent of alcohol in the GABA system, fast, effective, and in someone with an addiction history, among the most dangerous drugs that can be prescribed. They work so well, so quickly that dependence can develop in weeks.
And benzodiazepine withdrawal, particularly after long-term use, can be medically life-threatening in a way that most other withdrawals are not. Opioids and stimulants also appear in anxiety self-medication, though a little bit less commonly as the primary driver. The common thread is always the same: a nervous system looking for an off-switch, finding one, and then using it.
When Compassion Turns Into Enabling
SPEAKER_00 10:27
Last week I talked about the trap that families fall into with depression, believing that a diagnosis and a medication will turn things around, will turn things back to normal. With anxiety, there's a version of that same trap. And then there's a second one that's specific to anxiety disorders. The first trap is the same. A diagnosis is not a solution. Getting your loved one to a psychiatrist and starting medication to address one piece of a multi-piece problem, it does not address the addiction. It does not address the behavioral patterns around avoiding, drinking, isolating, and using.
And it does not address what is happening within the family system. The second trap is this one. Families often learn that their loved one has been self-medicating their anxiety. And they feel terrible. They blame themselves. If we just caught this sooner, if we'd just been less stressful to live with, if we'd notice the guilt can be enormous. And then that guilt gets used, sometimes unconsciously, sometimes not, to justify not requiring change. He's dealing with real anxiety. I can't push him too hard right now. She's been through a lot, and I don't want to make things worse.
The anxiety is real, so maybe the drinking is understandable. The anxiety is real. The self-medication makes the anxiety worse over time. And protecting someone from consequences because of their mental health diagnosis is enabling dressed up as compassion. Let me say that again. Protecting someone from consequences because of their mental health diagnosis is enabling dressed up as compassion. I don't say this with judgment. I've sat with hundreds of families who got here. It makes complete sense and it keeps people sick. The anxiety disorder is real. It does need treatment.
And addiction needs treatment right alongside of it. Not instead of it, not after it, not once the anxiety is manageable, together at the same time by providers who understand both. And you, the family member, need your own support, not for them, but for you. Because managing an anxious person's world to keep their anxiety from triggering has probably reshaped your entire life in ways you fully haven't named or recognized yet.
Therapy That Works Alongside Recovery
SPEAKER_00 12:53
Panic disorder can present acutely, a cluster of panic attacks that emerge around a specific stressor or life event, and respond well to a focused treatment course. Some people work through a panic disorder in a relatively defined period of time and don't require long-term management. Generalized anxiety disorder is typically chronic. By definition, it's been present for at least six months. And most people who receive this diagnosis, it's been present for longer, often years or decades. Generalized anxiety disorder is managed, not cured.
The goal of treatment is reducing the intensity and frequency of anxiety to a level where the person can function well, not eliminating the worry entirely. Social anxiety disorder sits somewhere in between. Treatment is highly effective. Some people experience dramatic improvement and need minimal long-term support. Others manage it as an ongoing condition. Now, why does this matter for families? If the diagnosis is generalized anxiety disorder, don't wait for the anxiety to resolve before expecting the person to work on their recovery. It won't fully resolve.
The work of recovery happens right alongside of it. For anxiety disorders, cognitive behavioral therapy is the most extensively researched and consistently effective treatment we have. It works by identifying the thought patterns that feed anxiety, the catastrophic predictions, the overstimulation of threat, the underestimation of the person's ability to cope, and building skills to challenge and change those ideas.
For panic disorders specifically, CBT includes interreceptive exposure, deliberately producing mild versions of the physical sensations associated with panic, elevated heart rate, lightheadedness, breathlessness. This is done in a controlled setting to teach the nervous system that these sensations are not dangerous. This sounds counterintuitive, but it works. For social anxiety, exposure therapy is central, systematic, gradual approach to feared social situations in a supported environment. Avoidance maintains anxiety. This approach reduces the social anxiety over time.
Acceptance and commitment therapy, ACT, is increasingly used alongside or instead of CBT for anxiety. Rather than trying to eliminate anxious thoughts, ACT teaches the person to observe them without letting them dictate their behavior. The goal is a rich, values-driven life alongside the anxiety, not waiting until the anxiety is gone to start living. There's also somatic and body-based approaches, including nervous system regulation work, breath work, mindfulness-based interventions, and they're particularly useful for people whose anxiety lives primarily in the body.
The nervous system can be trained. It takes time, but the capacity is there.
Medication Options And Benzos Warnings
SPEAKER_00 15:51
Now let's talk about medication and the major classes that are used for anxiety disorders. SSRIs and SNRIs are the first-line medications for anxiety disorders. The same medication used for depression, fluoxetine, sertraline, venlofaxine, duloxetine, these are all FDA approved for various anxiety disorders. They take four to six weeks to reach full effect. They are not addictive. They do not produce a high, and in the context of addiction, they're generally safe and appropriate. There's not a lot of abuse potential.
This is often the right answer with someone who has an addiction history and who needs ongoing medication for their anxiety. Beta blockers are sometimes used, things like propranolol, etenolol. These block the physical symptoms of anxiety, racing heart, trembling, sweating, used situationally for performance anxiety or specific phobias. They don't address the psychological component, but they can interrupt the physical feedback loop that escalates panic and they're non-addictive. Another one is hydroxizine. This is an antihistamine used for acute anxiety.
It's not addictive, it's relatively fast acting, it produces some sedation. This is often used in early recovery as a bridge while SSRIs reach their therapeutic levels, underprescribed and underutilized in the addiction population. And then we come to benzodiazepines, things like Xanax, clonapin, atavan, Valium. I want to say this as clearly as I know how to say it. In someone with an active addiction history or a family history of addiction, benzodiazepine should be a last resort, not a first line. They work and they work fast, and sometimes that's the bad news.
They are one of the most commonly misused prescription drugs in the country with a physical dependence profile and a withdrawal syndrome that can be very medically dangerous. If a prescriber suggests a benzodiazepine for your loved one and does not ask about addiction history, that's a huge red flag. If they know about the addiction history and still want to prescribe, you should have a direct conversation about the risk. The conversation is not disrespectful, it's responsible. And here's what the families can do. I want you to stop managing their anxiety for them. I know that sounds hard.
When someone you love is anxious, the impulse is to smooth things out, to give reassurance, to remove stressors, to avoid topics that trigger them. That's completely human. And it sounds compassionate, and it makes the anxiety worse over time. Every time you manage the environment to prevent their anxiety from activating, you confirm to their nervous system that the world is as dangerous as they think it is, and you confirm to them that they cannot handle it without you. This is not the same thing as being unkind. You can be warm, steady, and present without taking the anxiety away from them.
In fact, that combination, warmth without rescue, is one of the most therapeutic things a family member can offer. And then you get your self-support, not so you can help them, but for you. For the years of walking on eggshells, for the way you've reorganized your life around their nervous system, for the fact that living with someone with untreated anxiety is its own kind of exhausting. And you probably haven't been allowed to say that out loud.
Tools For Hard Conversations And Support
SPEAKER_00 19:41
I want to tell you about something we just added at Sober Helpline. I think this is going to change how families prepare for the hard conversations. Because here's the reality knowing what to say and actually being able to say it when you're sitting across from someone who's defensive, in denial, or just done talking, those are two different things. Most families go into those conversations having thought about what they want to say, but never actually having practiced it.
And then the conversation goes sideways in the first 30 seconds, and everything they plan to say goes right out the window. I built something in the Sober Helpline app specifically for that. It's an AI conversation practice tool. You describe your loved one, how they typically respond when they feel cornered, whether they get defensive or shut down or go on the offense, and the AI responds as if it were them. You practice your actual words. You hear how the conversation feels in real time as the AI speaks back to you. And when it doesn't go the way you want it, you try it again.
What makes this different is that you can actually adjust the tone. You can dial up the defensiveness to match how your loved one actually is on a hard day, not a good day, not a cooperating day, the real version. You can adjust the emotional temperature of the AI so that you're not just practicing against a compliant version of someone who doesn't exist. You're preparing for the conversation you're actually going to have. That's not role play, that's reps, that's repetitions, like going to the gym. And reps are what close the gap between knowing what to do and being able to do it.
The SoberHelpline app also gives you access to our free Monday night Family Square Zoom call directly from your phone and the recordings of every previous meeting, the full member resource library and one-on-one chat or video sessions with me when you need more than just a group call. Search Sober Helpline in the Apple App Store or start at Soberhelpline.com. And I also want to talk to you about the Family Bridge app, because what we're talking about in this series points directly at the problem that Family Bridge was built to solve.
When someone in a family is struggling with addiction, the family almost never responds as a unit. Different family members are going to do different things. One person is drawing a hard line, another is quietly covering for them, someone else is avoiding the whole situation entirely. And the person with the addiction, consciously or not, navigates that inconsistently in a way that lets them stay exactly where they are. Family Bridge changes that dynamic. It's an AI-powered support tool designed specifically for the family system. Not just one person, but everyone involved.
It helps the family get aligned around a common plan, what we're going to say and what we're not going to say, what we're going to do and what we're not going to do anymore. It helps the whole family establish consistent boundaries so there's no daylight for addiction to move through. It helps you find the shared goal everyone can actually commit to, not just the goal the most motivated person in the family has. And then you build toward that together.
It also helps with the practical side of those conversations, how to time them, how to frame them, how to approach a loved one when they're more likely to be receptive versus when you're almost guaranteed to get a wall. It has tools for navigating the financial dynamics that addiction creates in families, and it has tools for preparing what you're going to say. The research on this is clear. When families are fragmented and inconsistent, it is dramatically easier for someone to stay stuck in addiction.
When the family gets unified, the same message, the same boundaries, the same level of support and accountability, it changed it changes the entire landscape of a person's recovery. Family Bridge is how that unification can actually happen. Check it out at FamilyBridgeApp.com or find it at Family Bridge Recovery on the Apple App Store.
Final Takeaways And Review Request
SPEAKER_00 23:29
Before we close, I want to make one request. If this episode clarified something you've been watching and couldn't name, please take 60 seconds and leave a five-star review. Write a sentence about what brought you here or what land what landed for you. There's someone out there right now who's been living with an anxious person for 15 years and has no idea what they're looking at. Your review might be how they find this show. And that matters. That matters to a lot of families out there who are searching.
If your loved one has been struggling with anxiety, whether it's been named or not, I want you to hear this. That alarm that keeps going off is not a character defect. It's a nervous system that learned to stay on, alert, and doesn't know how to come down. It's treatable. It's not fixable overnight. It's not solved by the right drink or the right pill alone. But it's treatable with the right combination of support for them and for you. This is the party wreckers. We don't wreck parties. We help people find the kind of calm that doesn't disappear when the substance does.
Thank you so much for listening.
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